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Mormon church says it's changed database to prevent Jews being submitted for posthumous baptism by proxy.

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SALT LAKE CITY (AP) — The Mormon church says it has changed its genealogical database to better prevent the names of Jews Holocaust victims from being submitted for posthumous baptism by proxy.

In a joint statement issued Wednesday, The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints and a coalition of Jewish leaders said a new computer system and policy changes related to the practice should resolve a yearslong disagreement over the baptisms.

Mormons believe posthumous baptism by proxy provides an opportunity for deceased persons to receive the Gospel in the afterlife. Baptisms are performed in Mormon temples with members immersing themselves in a baptismal pool as proxies for others. The names used in the ceremonies are drawn from a church-run genealogical database.

Faithful Mormons use the practice primarily to have their ancestors baptized into the 180-year-old church and believe the ceremonies reunite families in the afterlife.

But the practice also includes proxy rites for others around the world from all faith traditions. The church also believes departed souls can accept or reject the baptismal rites in the afterlife and contends the offerings are not intended to offend anyone.

Jews are offended by the idea that Mormons are trying to alter the religion of Holocaust victims, who were murdered because of their religion.

In 1995, the church inked an agreement with the New York City-based American Gathering of Holocaust Survivors that prevented Mormons from performing baptisms or other rites for Holocaust victims, except in the very rare instances when they have living descendants who are Mormon. The church also agreed to remove the names of Holocaust victims already in the massive database.

Database monitoring since then, however, has found that the agreement had failed to prevent both the submission of names and the baptismal rites from continuing. That sparked a dispute between the Mormons and the American Gathering over a breech of the agreement. The Jewish group withdrew from discussions with the church in 2008, saying the issue could not be resolved.

Church officials say conversations were renewed last year after a coalition of Jewish rabbis and community leaders led by former New York Attorney General Robert Abrams were invited to Salt Lake City to tour a newly constructed temple and its downtown genealogy library to better understand the process.

Under new church polices, members will be required to certify names submitted to the database for baptism. Further safeguards include monitoring those names for submissions that don't meet policy standards and the removal of records, church spokesman Michael Purdy said in story posted on a church-owned newspaper's website.

Abrams, who discussed the baptisms issue with American Gathering leader Ernest Michel before talking with Mormon leaders, said he believes the Mormon church is sincere in trying to address Jewish concerns. Abrams said church leaders have assured him that members who fail to comply with church baptism policies will face sanctions that include losing their access to church temples.

"They have made this extraordinary exception to the doctrine for Holocaust victims," Abrams told The Associated Press on Wednesday. "Their doctrine seeks to offer baptism to the souls of all people who have ever lived on the face of the earth and one grouping has been carved out. That is an act of extraordinary sensitivity and commitment, which is understood and appreciated by the Jewish community."

A telephone message left at Michel's office in New York City was not immediately returned Wednesday.

New Jersey-based Jewish genealogy expert Gary Mokotoff, who was part of the American Gathering group that had negotiated with the church, said the rules and safeguards will correct past problems — if they are enforced.

Past promises of reprimands and the removal of names have not always been kept and recent checks of the database by independent Salt Lake City researcher, Helen Radkey, have found baptisms were performed for Holocaust victims as recently as July, he said.

"This has been going on so long that you have to be suspicious," said Mokotoff. "Qualified Mormons have access to the complete database so they can do proper temple work, there should be some way Jewish people can confirm that they are abiding by the 1995 agreement."

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Scientology, The Truth About A Lie

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Article from the Montreal Gazette, Liz Ferguson

http://communities.canada.com/montrealgazette/blogs/thecinefiles/archive/2010/08/31/world-film-festival-scientology-the-truth-about-a-lie.aspx

Scientology, The Truth About A Lie
2010
France
Directed by Jean-Charles Deniau
(The film is in a mixture of French and English.
All the French parts are translated into English, but not all of the English parts are translated into French.)

Scientology is recognized as a religion, for income tax purposes, in the U.S., but not in France. In France and Germany it is generally considered a cult.

While church members had already been convicted of fraud in France, last year the church itself was convicted for the first time, and fined close to $900,000. (You can read a New York Times article about that here.)

This documentary talks to several French citizens  who had been Scientologists for many years.

They describe the methods used to attract potential members and to keep them.

Many join out of a desire for self-improvement. A combination of praise and criticism draws them further and further into the organization.

(The criticism is easy since people have already revealed their weaknesses while answering various questionnaires.)

Every step costs more money. Some members gave the organization thousands of euros, one even gave more than one million.

After hearing their stories, it's really amazing that these long-term members were able to break free.

One of the sadder stories comes from a woman who brought her two sons into the movement when they were children. Eventually she decided to leave, but they did not want to. They cut all contact with her and she has not heard from them in years.

Scientology, The Truth About A Lie will be shown Monday, Aug. 31 at 2:30 p.m. at Quartier Latin.

Liz Ferguson

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Knowledge and wisdom through logic and reason for equality and dignity

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Babies who are born today will be 80 years old in the year 2090, and they will then be sharing the Planet with 24 billion people (the population doubles on Earth every forty years, and so we were 3 billion in 1960, we are 6 billion today, in 2050 we will be 12 billion, to reach 24 billion in 2090). These already-condemned sad-and-pathetic kids, just like their obtuse-parents, will bear silly-tattoos covering-up the thin-scars of their devastated-bodies and the deep-scars of their tormented-minds, struggling in an over-crowded world filled with hatred-and-despair. And indeed even your superstitious “prayers” are not going to help them.

The danger of indoctrination

Notwithstanding your age, you are constantly reminded that your parents and your schools failed to teach you and to train you in the fundamentals of knowledge and wisdom.

You are not alone in that situation, as scores of children and students have been misled by fantasy-tales of upanishads, storks, kuran, talmud, santa-klaus, saints-and-gods, bibles, cherubs, and superstition, and have mistakenly kept those belief with them even deep into grown-up age.

Most people have also been brought-up worshipping, in one form or another, Bishops, Generals, and Bankers (B-G-B), the trio of power of religionism, militarism, and capitalism.

Most children still do not know about any alternatives, and many parents are still corrupting the minds of their beloved-ones with manipulative-practices leading to falsity-and-indoctrination, only to favor churches, armies, and banks, and all at the expense of the children.

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Brian Ross Investigates the House of Yahweh

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On this week's episode of "Brian Ross Investigates," ABC News Chief Investigative Correspondent Brian Ross takes you inside the House of Yahweh, a controversial compound in Texas run by a self-proclaimed prophet that critics call a "sex cult."

Brian Ross Investigates What Critics Call a Sex Cult

Cult expert Rick Ross joins Brian Ross on Skype, telling him that since an original "20/20" investigation aired, the House of Yahweh is still up and running. He discusses what attracts followers to these types of groups and what happens when they arrive at the compound, including brainwashing and the signing over of property.

"I've done interventions, hired by families to get people out cults, and this one in specific, and I can tell you it's really tough talking with them and getting them out of this group," said Ross.

Yisrayl Hawkins, the leader of the House of Yahweh, declined to appear with Ross on the show.

"Brian Ross Investigates" is a weekly 30-minute investigative news magazine show that features exclusive interviews, undercover videos and extended investigations and story updates.

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"The show is part of our expanded digital efforts in this new age of news," Ross said. "It's an exciting venture that we hope will allow viewers to interact with our investigative team and offer input as we continue reporting."

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